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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 9:44 am

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Rachel is a bigger woman than I am.

Would you put up with a man telling you what to do and how to behave? I wouldn't, and I think that makes me a bigger woman than Rachel.

I wasnt talking about that part of this creepy relationship . I was talking about throwing it back in his face..

Her putting up with his controlling behavior is another story all together. I think that comes from a lack of self esteem. Maybe he or others have berated her so much that she believes what they say: she is irresponsible, untrustworthy, dumb, and incomplete without him. I just don't see any other reason for her to be there other than she believes the complaints he has about her.

For whatever reason, Rachel wants to be with him. Maybe she thinks he will take care of her. I don't know.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:10 am

Brendon is an abuser plain and simple. Rachel is with him because she has low self esteem and believes she can change the things she doesn't like about him. It won't happen and before she knows it he'll truly have her believing she's an idiot and can't live without him. Add children to this mix and let the vicious cycle begin. I guess I just hope that she comes to her senses before the wedding or at least before bringing children into this train wreck.

I just can't tolerate listening to Brendon on the feeds and have to turn them off when he starts talking. Yeah - I'm missing a lot of the feeds I know.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:26 am

I agree they are both PAINFULLY insecure about themselves and exhibit different coping mechanisms. Brendon's way of dealing with it, is to consume and control his partner. Rachel's way of dealing with it is self loathing and constantly seeking validation and attention (good or bad) from others.

I agree with you Speedy, Brendon is an abuser. His insecurities cause him to want to control his partner into "staying with him forever" and to that end he will do ANYTHING. Kinda scary. Brendon feeds Rachel's insecurity by paying too much attention to her and telling her she is gorgeous and all that stuff - that is his hook. Now that he has her where he wants her, he is doing what he needs to in order to keep her - wear her down and make her believe that without him she is nothing. For me, it is really hard to watch. Sad to see two people with so many things potentially going for them - be so miserable being themselves forget about being together.

I think they are both competitive and if they were not so emotionally messed up they might have a chance playing a game like this - but the way they are.....they are not long for this game.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:30 am

He tells her how terrible she is...then says sorry but u r and I love and would never change u and u can't act like that.dress like that. Say that. Do that.but again I love and am not going to change u..I love you want to take care of u ....you irresponsible le hoochie mama...do as I say...

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:34 am

I think Rachel is in love with the idea of marrying a "Doctor".

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:47 am

I read Rage's tweets while watching this on the feeds... as a friend of Rachel I hope he can give her some straight up honesty and advice

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:52 am

I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:52 am

I think we've probably all witnessed what I'll call toxic relationships in our lives but getting a glimpse behind the curtain of this particular relationship is certainly unsettling at times. Are they addicted to the drama of the fight/make up cycle? Does Brendon need to be with a woman that he feels superior to? There seem to be so many things about Rachel that he doesn't like or respect and yet there he is.
Does Rachel feel unworthy of true respect and acceptance from a mate and thus puts up with his criticism and his attempts to control her?
I don't know them, of course, but these glimpses of their relationship that we do get make me uncomfortable at times. It sure doesn't seem like a very healthy pairing.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:53 am

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I think Kimmie meant to type "Ragan".
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:54 am

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I think we've probably all witnessed what I'll call toxic relationships in our lives but getting a glimpse behind the curtain of this particular relationship is certainly unsettling at times. Are they addicted to the drama of the fight/make up cycle? Does Brendon need to be with a woman that he feels superior to? There seem to be so many things about Rachel that he doesn't like or respect and yet there he is.
Does Rachel feel unworthy of true respect and acceptance from a mate and thus puts up with his criticism and his attempts to control her?
I don't know them, of course, but these glimpses of their relationship that we do get make me uncomfortable at times. It sure doesn't seem like a very healthy pairing.

I think those are both great insights.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:55 am

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I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?

carpet guy was in my office, had to use the phone... and that auto complete/correct hates me!!

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:57 am

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I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?

carpet guy was in my office, had to use the phone... and that auto complete/correct hates me!!

lol!

LOL, I should have got that!
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 10:58 am

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I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?

carpet guy was in my office, had to use the phone... and that auto complete/correct hates me!!

lol!

Can I now call him Rage? I actually like it. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 12:17 pm

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I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?

carpet guy was in my office, had to use the phone... and that auto complete/correct hates me!!

lol!

Can I now call him Rage? I actually like it. lol!


Only if we can call Brendon "Benson".

And Benson is insufferable.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 12:18 pm

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I agree, Brendon is horrible, misogynist and abusive. I would like to see Rachel play the game without him. I would be throwing penisgate in his face the whole time too- but then I would have also left him over it.

Who is Rage?

carpet guy was in my office, had to use the phone... and that auto complete/correct hates me!!

lol!

Can I now call him Rage? I actually like it. lol!


Only if we can call Brendon "Benson".

And Benson is insufferable.


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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 12:31 pm

Apparently, Shelly is adding more fuel to the fire with Brendon about Rachel. Does this dude like anything about her? Why is he discussing his relationship with some random woman he JUST met 11 days ago? Grow up, Brendon.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 12:39 pm

I am not defending Brendan's behaviour, IF this is totally all his doing....HOWEVER, I get the feeling that she was upset with her behaviour last year and cried alot about it to Brendan.

She doesn't want to be portrayed as the loud, hoochie mama type. She probably is calmer in real life and she feels she was not portrayed well last year (her own doing, but whatever)

I think that she told Brendan "if that starts again, let me know, I don't want to be that girl" and Brendan is doing just that.

I have had friend like that in the past "OMG if I do that again, please stop me, or cut me off, or change the subject...." etc. Then when you do it, people think you are mean.

I don't know. Brendan wants a certain type of girl. Rachel may be that type 60% of the time, but she is who she is and will act how she acts. He can't change her, even if she is tying to change - it has to be her doing. I think they are fighting a losing battle.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 12:51 pm

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I am not defending Brendan's behaviour, IF this is totally all his doing....HOWEVER, I get the feeling that she was upset with her behaviour last year and cried alot about it to Brendan.

She doesn't want to be portrayed as the loud, hoochie mama type. She probably is calmer in real life and she feels she was not portrayed well last year (her own doing, but whatever)

I think that she told Brendan "if that starts again, let me know, I don't want to be that girl" and Brendan is doing just that.

I have had friend like that in the past "OMG if I do that again, please stop me, or cut me off, or change the subject...." etc. Then when you do it, people think you are mean.

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I think they made some kind of pact before the show to warn each other about not repeating what happened on last season, but Brendon is doing it in the wrong way.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:02 pm

Brendon does everything wrong (exag.). I think his family life screwed him up so badly that he just doesn't know how to deal with certain issues as well as he should. There's something seriously wrong when a person's feelings are hurt by the smallest of things. Did he ever go to therapy like he implied he would via youtube?
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:18 pm

That is the problem - he just doesn't know how to say it to her without hurting her feelings. I do think he is well intentioned, and they did ask each other to "tell me if I am doing that again". Esp Rachel, she was really upset by her portrayal last year.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:20 pm

i wonder what he does at home that she wants him to stop and he wont?

Porn? Dominant sex?


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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:22 pm

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i wonder what he does at home that she wants him to stop and he wont?

Porn? Dominant sex?


Masterbating on camera to a stranger on the internet.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:23 pm

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i wonder what he does at home that she wants him to stop and he wont?

Porn? Dominant sex?


Masterbating on camera to a stranger on the internet.

so he wont stop masterbaiting on camera to strangers?

Boy, he got mad and almost threatened her , she knew not to go there...


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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 1:48 pm

I think he did threaten her. "Don't go there, Rachel," is threatening. He can berate her, but she can't say anything about any of his mistakes. Do as he says, not as he does.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 3:23 pm

I've tired to be positive about this guy, but he is nasty. I just hope he goes next week and Shelly shuts her damn mouth.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 3:41 pm

So, can I call Brendon " Bookie" since Rachel does. Pretty please.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 3:45 pm

Nope boob shake

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 3:47 pm

LOL. Ok. Thanks Snow!
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 4:11 pm

You could always ask Kimmie...she's easy! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 6:34 pm

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That is the problem - he just doesn't know how to say it to her without hurting her feelings. I do think he is well intentioned, and they did ask each other to "tell me if I am doing that again". Esp Rachel, she was really upset by her portrayal last year.

I agree.

I tell this to my brother all the time when he wonders why/how he hurt someone's feelings. He and I are not on good terms at the moment. He still doesn't get it though. It's not the things you say, but the way you say them. You can get your point across without puting them down in the process.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 6:40 pm

Brendon was much better in this most recent conversation with Rachel. He made his points without denigrating her. (It was about trying to separate emotion from game play)
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 7:55 pm

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I've tired to be positive about this guy, but he is nasty. I just hope he goes next week and Shelly shuts her damn mouth.

You are such a trooper, Snow. You have stuck by him longer then anybody. I have defended Rachel right along with you, but Brendan has always disgusted me.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 8:58 pm

I just want to beat the shit out of him.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 9:24 pm

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I just want to beat the shit out of him.

I would pay to see this. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 9:37 pm

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I just want to beat the shit out of him.

I would pay to see this. Razz

Do it! I need a champion to knock him on his ass.
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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 12th 2011, 9:42 pm

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I just want to beat the shit out of him.



Please go beat Jeff while you are at it.
I hope Jeff leaves next week and Brendon the week after because I am more disappointed in Jeff. I knew Brendon was a control freak that talks down to his girlfriend but I did NOT know Jeff was just as ignorant another way.

Oh well...my rooting changed just a little bit ago.

Go Dani <3, Go Jordan <3, Go Rachel <3 !!...and literally GO BRENDON and take JEFF with you when you go!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 13th 2011, 3:18 am

I think she might be in denial about "penisgate". What I do not understand is why CBS switched feeds when this was being talked about. Both Brendon and Rachel have openly discussed it.

Maybe she believes everything he says. What someone in a relationship like this sees as being protective and loving is actually an unhealthy controlling and abusive partnership. It is painful to watch these two fight. I can not imagine what goes on when they are away form the cameras.

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 13th 2011, 9:02 am

LOL Moody & Wild...

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PostSubject: Re: Brendon Villegas   July 13th 2011, 12:58 pm

Brendon's voice makes me wanna shoot_me
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